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State already going toe to toe over so-called sanctuary cities. over so-called sanctuary cities. simone boise, caught up with simone boise caught up with i. c. e. , in los angeles, to learn i. c. e. in los angeles, to learn more. more. , . This target has three prior .

This target has three prior removals from the united states. removals from the united states. it’s 5:00 a. m. in los an ...
eles, >, >, it’s, 5:00 a. m. in los angeles, and these i. c. e. agents have a and these i. c. e.

agents have a list of names they’re after list Of names they’re after individuals, they say, crossed the individuals they say, crossed the border illegally and have been border illegally and have been charged withcrimes on american charged with crimes on american soil. soil. That’S david maren field. That’S david maren field, director for i. c. e. in l. a. director for i. c. e.

in l. a. i. c. e. , asked that we conceal i. c. e. asked that we conceal other agents’ faces. other agents’ faces. These agents have been.

These agents have been surveilling the men for weeks. surveilling, the men for weeks. They know the car they drive, they know the car, they drive what time they drop their kids, what time they drop their kids off at school and what route off at school and what route they take to work. they take to work. This was a truck right behind . This was a truck right behindyou, with its lights. On. you, with its lights, on. i’m going to swing right behind i’m, going to swing right behind that truck. that truck.

december 24th. He was arrested december 24th. He was arrested for violation of a court order. for violation of a court order. , so we placed a detainer. , so we placed a detainer. for some reason. They didn’t turn for some reason. They didn’t turn him over to us. him over to us. if they would have turned him if they would have turned him over to us right then, and there over to us right then, and there, in the jail wouldn’t have to in the jail wouldn’t, have to Use the resources. usethe resources.

♪ ♪ he’s, been deported twice. he’s been deported twice before. before. , this guy comes out any time. This guy comes out any time after 7:50. After 7:50. He should be coming out soon. He should be coming out. Soon.

today they’re able to arrest today they’re able to arrest three of the five undocumented three of the five undocumented people. Without incident. people without incident. How would you define a? How would you define a successful day doing successful day doing apprehensions apprehensions? exactly what you’ve seen so exactly what you’ve seen so far. far. us getting a criminal off the us, getting a criminal off the street and out ofthe community. street and out of the community. , but for i. c. e.

This isn’t . But for i. c. e. this isn’t ideal. ideal. , they say their hands are tied by they say their hands are tied by sanctuary city policies, sanctuary city policies, policies, i. c. e. calls a threat policies. I. C.

E. calls a threat to public safety. to public safety. , american sanctuary cities. American sanctuary cities emerged in the ’70s and ’80s. emerged in the ’70s and ’80s. today, 39 communities in four today, 39 communities in four states bill themselves as safe states bill themselves as safe havens for undocumented havens for undocumented immigrants. immigrants. Generally speaking, these generally speaking, these jurisdictions limit cooperation jurisdictions, limit cooperation with federal immigration, agentswith federal immigration agents by not honoring detainment by not honoring, detainment requests and denying ice access requests and denying ice access to jails and prisons. to jails and prisons.

sanctuary policies are >, > sanctuary policies are protecting criminal aliens. , protecting criminal aliens. They prevent law enforcement. They prevent law enforcement from working with i. c. e. from working with i. c. e. Again we don’t ask them to do again.

We don’t ask them to do our job. , our job. What we ask them to do is notify. What we ask them to do is notify us when somebody we want is in us when somebody we want is in their custody. , their custody. Even the obama administration, , even theobama administration criticized sanctuary cities criticized sanctuary cities angering his base. angering his base. Why does it seem like we’re? Why does it seem like we’re hearing so much about them now, hearing so much about them? Now, they’re bringing drugs. they’re, bringing drugs.

they’re, bringing crime. they’re, bringing crime. they’re rapists. they’re rapists. It goes back to 2015 and the . It goes back to 2015 and the start of donald trump’s start of donald trump’s, presidential campaign. , presidential campaign. trump and his supporters have trump and his supporters have pointed to violent crimes and pointed to violent crimes and sill ing sill, ing killings in sanctuary, cities. killings in Sanctuary cities. earlier this year, afederal earlier this year, a federal appeals court did grant. The appeals court did grant the administration authority to administration authority to award preferential treatment for award preferential treatment for certain policing grants when certain policing grants.

When cities cooperate with cities, cooperate with immigration, authorities. immigration, authorities. , , it seems to keep all of us . It seems to keep all of us with this image of criminality. , with this image of criminality. , so it’s very easy to use the so it’s very easy to use the most egregious case, rape and most egregious case, rape and murder. But those are such few murder, but those are such few instances. instances. , yet they’re used in order to yet they’reused in order to allow for all of these other allow for all of these other millions of human beings to be millions of human beings to be deported. Deported. : this is the executive .

This is the executive director for the coalition of director for the coalition of humane immigrant rights, los humane immigrant rights, los angeles. angeles. Her organization claims her organization, claims, sanctuary, city policies, keep sanctuary, city policies, keep immigrant communities, safe. immigrant communities, safe. in places like los angeles, in places like los angeles, county and city. What has county and city? What has happened is all they’ve done. Is happened is all they’ve done is set a higher bar in makingset, a higher bar in making determinations as to who is determinations as to who is going to be turned over to going to be turned over to i. c. e. i. c.

e. I think it safeguards our. I think it safeguards our community. community. it safe dpardsguards families, an it safe, dpardsguards families. An also creates a situation in also creates a situation in which people, independent of which people independent of their immigration status, trust their immigration status, trust the police to fight crime. , the police to fight crime. Would you like to see i. c. e.

? Would you like to see i. c. e. abolished, abolished, ? This is an agency that’s . This is an agency that’s rogue. rogue. I thinkthat americans need to. I think that americans need to understand their tax dollars are understand. Their tax dollars are paying for violations of human paying for violations of human rights. rights.

I don’t think that we have to be. I don’t think that we have to be so closed. Minded to this idea. So closed minded to this idea that maybe if we look a little that maybe if we look a little deeper, this is a law deeper. This is a law enforcement system that has to enforcement system that has to be reformulated. , be reformulated. , that’s different from saying we that’s different from saying we don’t need to secure our don’t need to secure our borders. borders. , the trump administration sued, , the Trump administration sued the state of california, for the state of california, for obstructing federal immigration, obstructing federal immigration, enforcement. enforcement. , they lost. they lost.

a federal court upheld the a federal court upheld the california values act, ruling california values act, ruling quote standing aside, does not quote Standing aside does not equate to standing in the way. equate to standing in the way. deportation is the . Deportation is the consequence that comes with consequence that comes with entering into the country entering into the country illegally. illegally. Do you think that it should be? Do you think that it should be decriminalized, decriminalized, ? I think our kbragsimmigration , i think our kbragsimmigration are set up, so people of color do are set up, so people of color do not have access to legal, not have access to legal migration in this country. migration. In this country. , even the proportion of people , even the proportion of people deported via interior removals deported via interior removals, not at the border, has ticked not at the border, has ticked back down. back down.

That’S what’s happening here. That’S what’s happening here. Back at the i. c. e. staging back at the i. c. e. staging facility in downtown l. a. facility in downtown l. a.

, today’s detainees are being today’s. Detainees are being processed. processed. Some will have their day in some will have theirday in immigration court and learn immigration court and learn whether they’ll face whether they’ll face deportation. deportation. immigration rights groups, say immigration rights groups say that policies help protect, that policies, help protect families and keep families, families and Keep families intact. intact. : they don’t want to see people they don’t want to see. People who are in the country illegally, who are in the country illegally, who have not committed a crime who have not committed a crime, get swept up into these, get swept up into these enforcement actions. enforcement, actions.

I think what they’re really . I think what they’re really doing is they’re forcing us to doing is they’re forcing us to be outin. The community more. be out in the community more. without these sanctuary city without these sanctuary city policies, if we could work in the policies, if we could work in the jails that’s where we would be jails, that’s where we would be encountering people. encountering people. because of Sanctuary policies because of sanctuary policies we can’t be in the jails. , we can’t be in the jails. we’re out on the streets. we’re out on the streets. that’s where we’re going to be that’s, where we’re going to be encounting. People ing encounting people ing encountering people who are in encountering people who are in the united states illegally.

the united states illegally. , his two young children were . His two young children were inside as he was arrested. inside as he was arrested. translator. Why did i come >, > translator? Why did i come here from guatemala here from guatemala because there’s a lot of because there’s a lot of insecurity. insecurity. there’s? No work. there’s, no work. , my whole family is here. My whole family is here.

I don’t have anyone in i don’t have anyone in guatemala. guatemala. that’s why i’m here. , that’s? Why i’m here. , i think i’m going to do the same. I think i’m going to do the same thing. Again. thing again. , i can’t be over there. i can’t be over there.

I don’t have anyone. , i don’t have anyone. i don’t know how i’m going to do. I don’t know how i’m going to do it, but i need to be here with my it, but i need to be here with my kids. kids. a couple of weeks after we a couple of weeks after we spoke, he was removed. To spoke, he was removed to guatemala again. to guatemala, again. to guatemala. Again. one man said if he supported the one. Man said: if he supported the guatemalans, he will come back guatemalans.

He will come back over the u. s. border. over the u. s. border. He will try again. He will try again. what’s your reaction to that what’s, your reaction to that what doesthat make you think? What does that make you think about how this whole system about how this whole system works works? , i mean it’s unfortunate. , .

I mean it’s unfortunate. that individual has already been that individual has already been removed twice to guatemala and removed twice to guatemala and now he’s telling us that go now. He’S telling us that go ahead and remove me, but i’m ahead and remove me. But i’m going to come back. going to come back. that speaks to the need for that speaks to the need for immigration. Reform. , immigration, reform. , >, >, the need for reform is . The need for reform is actually something both sides.


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