Collins Slams Impeachment Hearing: ‘The Clock And The Calendar’ Are Driving Inquiry | NBC News

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Published: 12/04/2019 04:28 PM

Rep. Doug Collins, R-Ga. called the impeachment inquiry “a sham” in his opening statement during the House Judiciary Committee’s first public impeachment hearing. » Subscribe to NBC News: » Watch more NBC video: NBC News Digital is a c...

I think the chairman - and it is interesting that again parliamentary inquiries - and i believe some were actually some of the things i'm going to discuss today, because we're sort of coming here today in a different arena, look for everybody who's not been here before. This is a new room. It'S new rules. It'S a new month, we've even got cute little stickers for our staff, so we can come in becaus ...
we want to make this important. This is impeachment because we've done such a terrible job of it in this committee before but what's not new, it's basically what's just being reiterated by the chairman. What'S not new is the facts. What'S not new is it's thesame sad story? What'S interesting him before i get into my part of my opening statement, was it's just what was just said by the chairman? We worried we went back to a redo of mr. mahler. We'Re also saying, quoting him saying. The attention of the american people should be on foreign interference. I agree with him completely, except i guess the american people did not include the judiciary committee because we didn't take it up. We didn't have hearings, we didn't do anything to delve deeply into this issue.

We passed election bills but did not get into the in-depth part of what mr. muller talked about taking his own report and having hearings about that. We didn'tdo it. So i guess the american people doesn't include the house judiciary committee. You know the interesting art we also just heard an interesting discussion. We'Re gon na have a lot of interesting discussion today about the constitution and other things, but we also talked about the founders. What'S interesting is that the chairman talked a lot about the founders from the quotes and again. This is why we have the hearing about the founders being concerned about foreign influence, but what he also has hidden quote: was the founders being really really concerned about political impeachment, because you just don't like the guy you down the line team since november of 2016, the Chairman has talked about impeachment sincelast year when he was elected chairman two years ago on november 6th 17th, before he's even sworn in his chairman. So don't tell me this is about new evidence and new things and new stuff. We may have a new hearing room. We may have new mics, we may have chairs that aren't comfortable, but this is nothing new folks. This is sad.

So what do we have here today? You know what i'm thinking i looked at this and what is interesting is there's two things that have become very clear. This impeachment is not really about facts. If it was, i believe the other committees would have sent over recommendations for impeachment now they're putting it onthis committee, because if it goes badly, i guess they want to blame adam jeff's committee and his tea and others want to blame this committee, for it going bad. But they're already drafting articles, don't leave them fooled they're already getting ready for this. We'Ve already went after this with the ukraine. After numerous failings, a muller cola and annulments. The list goes a monuments. The list goes on, but the american people are foxy. Failing to see us legislate, but if you want to know what's really driving this there's two things: it's called the clock in the calendar, the clock in the calendar, most people in life. If you want to know what they truly value, lookat their clock, you look at their checkbook in their calendar. You know what they value. That'S what this committee values time.

They want to do it before the end of the year. Why? Because the chairman said it just a second ago because we're scared of the elections next year we're scared of the elections that we'll lose again. So we've got to do this now: the clock in the calendar: what's driving impeachment, not the facts when we understand this, that's what the witnesses here will say today. What do we have here today? What is really interesting over today and for the next few weeks is america we'll see why most people don't go to law, schoolno offense to our professors, but please really we're bringing you in here today to testify on stuff that most of you've already written about all Four for the opinions that we already know out of the classrooms that maybe you're getting ready for finals in to discuss things that you probably haven't even had a chance late unless you're really good on tv of watching the hearings for the last couple of weeks, you Couldn'T have possibly actually digested the adam schiff report from yesterday or the republican response in any real way. Now we can be theoretical all we want, but the american people is really going to look at this and say huh. What are we doingbecause? There'S no fact witnesses planned for this committee. That'S an interesting thing. Frankly, there's no plan at all, except next week, an ambiguous hearing on the presentation from the hips, the other committee that sent us the report and judiciary committee which i'm not still sure what they want present on and nothing else no plan. I asked the chairman before we left for thanksgiving to stay in touch. Let'S talk about what we have, because history will shine a bright light on us starting this morning, crickets until i asked for a witness the other day and let's just say that didn't go well. There'S no whistleblower and by the way it was proved today that he's notor she's not afforded the protection of identity. It'S not in the statute.

It'S just something that wasn't discussed by adam schiff. We also don't have adam schiff, who wrote the report. He said yesterday in a press conference, i'm not going to i'll send staff to do that, he's not going to, but you know as to me if he was willing to he'd come begging to us, but you know here's the problem. He sums it up very simply. Like this just 19 minutes after noon on inauguration day 2017, the washington post ran the headline the campaign to impeach. The president has begun mark zaid, who would later become the attorney for the infamous whistleblower tweeted injanuary 2017. The coup has started. The impeachment will follow ultimately - and in may of this year, al green says: if we don't impeach the president you'll get reelected. If you want to know what's happening here, we go. Why did everything that i say up to this point about no fact witnesses? Nothing for the judiciary committee we spent two and a half weeks before this hearing was even held under clinton two and a half weeks. We didn't find your names out until less than 48 hours ago. I don't know what we're playing hide.

The ball on. It'S pretty easy what you're gon na say, but we can't even get that straight. So what are we doing? Forthe next two weeks, i have no idea where chairman just said an in baguio bigger is hearing on the report, but nothing else. If we're going to simply not have fact witnesses when we are the rubber stamp hiding out back they're, very rubber stamp, the chairman talked about 20 years ago. What a disgrace to this committee to have the committee of impeachment simply take from other entities and rubber-stamping you see. Why do the things that i say matter about fight witnesses and actually hearings actually having this a due process, because by the way, just a couple of months ago, the democrats got all sort of dressed up if you would and says we're going tohave due process protection For the president and good fairness throughout this, this is the only committee in which the president would even have a possibility, but no offense to you their law, professors. The president has nothing to ask you you're not going to provide anything. He can't read - and his attorneys have nothing else put witnesses in here that they can be fact witnesses who can be actually cross-examined. That'S fairness and every attorney on this panel knows that this is a sham, but you know what i also see here is quotes like this. There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or impeachment supported by one of our major political parties or imposed by another suchan impeachment will produce deviceless bitterness and politics for years to come and will call into question the very legitimacy of our political institutions. American people are watching, they will not forget. You have the votes, you may have the muscle, but you do not have legitimacy of a national consensus or of a constitutional imperative.

The partisan coup d'etat will go down in infamy in the history of the nation. How about this one? I think the key point is that the republicans are still running a railroad job with no attempt at fair procedure. And today, when the democrats offered amendments offered, motions and committee to say, we should first discuss and adopt standards so that we knowwe're dealing with standards for impeachment that was voted down or ruled out of order. When we say the important thing is to start looking at the question before, we simply have a vote with no real inquiry. First, that was voted down and ruled out of order. So, frankly the whole question of what materials should be released and what is secondary. But that's all we discussed the essential question here. It is, which is to set up a fair process as to whether the country put this country through an impeachment proceeding that was ruled out of order. The republicans refused to let us discuss it. Those were all chairmen nadler before he was chairman. I guess 20years makes a difference. It'S an interesting time we're having a fact, listen piece, which you just heard a one-sided presentation of facts about this president.

Today we will present the other side which it gets so conveniently left out. Remember fairness does dictate that, but maybe not here, because we're not scheduling anything else. I have a democratic majority who is poll-tested what they think they ought to call what the president they think he did wow. That'S not following the facts. We have a just, a deep-seated hatred of a man who came to the white house and did what he said. He was going to do the most amazing question. I got in the first three monthsof. This gentleman's presidency from reporters was this. Can you believe he's putting forward those ideas? I said yes, he ran on them, he told the truth and he did what he said. The problem here today is this will also be one of the first impeachments the chairman mentioned. There was two of them, one that, before he resigned before the morning, clinton in which the facts, even by him democrats and republicans, were not really disputed in this one. They'Re not only disputed their counter dicted of each other.

There are no set facts here, in fact, they're, not anything that presents an impeachment here, except for president carrying out his job in the way the constitution sawthe, he sees fit to do it. This is where we're at today, so the interesting thing that i come to with most everybody here is: this may be a new time, a new place and we may be all scratch scrubbed up and looking pretty for impeachment, but this is not an impeachment. This is just a simple railroad job in today's is a waste of time, because this is where we're at so i close today with this, it didn't start with malware. It didn't start with a phone call. You know where this started. It started with tears in brooklyn. In november 2016, when election was lost, so we are here no plan, no fact witness issimply being a rubber stamp for what we have. But hey. We got law professors here. What a start of a party! Mr. chairman, before i yield back, i have a motion under clause 2 rule 11. The general was recognized for the purpose of an opening statement, not for the purpose of making a motion i yield back and now i ask for recognition for a motion under clause 2.

Rule 11: the gentleman is recognized. Mr. chairman, the pursuant to clause 2 of rule 11. I moved to require the attendance and testimony of chairmanship before this committee and transmit this letter. Accordingly, hey nbc news viewers, thanks for checking out our youtube channel, subscribe by clicking onthat button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch. The latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching.

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