Ken Buck Grills Jonathan Turley On Past Presidents' Abuse Of Power While In Office | NBC News

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In his questioning to Jonathan Turley, Rep. Ken Buck, questions whether a list of past presidents should have been impeached for actions while in office. » Subscribe to NBC News: » Watch more NBC video: NBC News Digital is a collection ...

So let me let me go with a few examples and see if you agree with me, lyndon johnson directed the central intelligence agency to place a spy in barry goldwater's campaign that spy got advanced copies of speeches and other strategy. Deliver that to the johnson campaign. Would that be impeachable conduct according to the other panelists? Oh, why yeah it's sweet pretty broadly, so i assume so how abo ...
t when president johnson put a wiretap on goldwater's campaign, plane that'd be for political benefit. Well, i can't exclude anything under that definition. Okay. Well, i'm gon na go with a few other presidents, we'll see where we go. Congressman deutsch just informed us that fdr put country first nowfranklin delano roosevelt when he was president directed the irs to conduct audits of his political enemies, namely huey long, william, randolph, hearst, hamilton, fish, father coughlin. Would that be an abuse of power for political benefit? According to the other panelists would that be impeachable conduct? I think it all would be subsumed into it. How about, when president kennedy directed his brother robert kennedy to deport one of his mistresses as an east german spy? Would that qualify as impeachable conduct? Once again, i can't exclude it and how about when he directed the fbi to he use wiretaps on congressional staffers, who opposed his him politically. Would that be impeachable conduct if it seemed to be fallingwithin it and let's go to barack obama, when barack obama directed or made a finding that the senate was in recess and appointed people to the national labor relations board and lost nine to zero ruth bader ginsberg Voted against the president on this issue. Would that be an abuse of power? I'M afraid you have to directed to others, but i don't see any exclusions under their definition. Okay and how about when the president directed his national security advisor and the secretary of state to lie to the american people about whether the ambassador to libya was murdered as a result of a video or was murdered as a result of a terrorist act? Would that bean abuse of power for political benefit 17 days before the next election? Well, not, according to my definition, to the others, will have to respond to their own well, you've heard their definition.

You can highlight those facts: they're, definitely a hard time, excluding anything out. It'S how about when abraham lincoln, arrested legislators in maryland, so that they wouldn't convene to secede from the union in virginia already had seceded. So it would have placed washington d. c the nation's capitol in the middle of the the rebellion. Would that have been an abuse of power for political benefit? Oh, it could be under that definition, and you mentioned george washington a little while ago, as perhaps havingmet the standard of impeachment for your other panelists um. In fact, let me ask you something: professor turley: can you name a single president in the history of the united states? Save president harrison who died 32 days after his inauguration. That would not have met the standard of impeachment for our friends here. I would hope to god james madison would escape otherwise a lifetime of academic work would be shredded. I i once again, i can't exclude many of these acts. Isn'T what you and i and many others are afraid of. Is that the standard that that your friends to the right of you and and not politically, but to the right of you sitting, inthere, that your friends have decided that the the bar is so low that when we have a democrat president in office and a republican House and a republican senate we're going to be going through this whole scenario again in a way that really puts the country at risk. Well, when you, when your graphic, says in your abcs that your b is betrayal of national interest, i would simply ask: do you really want that to be your standard? Now isn't the difference, professor turley, that some people live in an ivory tower and some people live in a swamp, and those of us that are in the swamp are doing our very best for the american peopleit's, not pretty.

Actually, i live in an ivory tower in a swamp because i'm gw but and it's not so bad - hey, nbc news viewers, thanks for checking out our youtube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch. The latest interviews show highlights, and digital exclusives thanks for watching.

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