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Think to the attorney general and to congress him. He says he and to congress him. He says he has a lot of good information. has a lot of good information. I have not spoken to him about. I have not spoken to him about that. Information. that information. joining me now is the chair. joining me now is the chair of the house, judiciary of the house, judiciary, committee. , committee.

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jerrold nadler. jerrold nadler. Welcome to `` meet the press. ' welcome to `` meet the press. ' good morning. Good to be good morning, good to be here. , here. >, >, okay. okay. this week. What does this look this week? What does this look like like isthis, the beginning of the? Is this the beginning of the drafting of the articles of drafting of the articles of impeachment impeachment? Is that what this week is going? Is that what this week is going to be about to be about ? Well, this week is going to .

Well, this week is going to start with tomorrow. start with tomorrow. monday, we’re going to have the monday we’re going to have the reports from the intelligence reports from the intelligence committee. , committee. , examination of their people by examination of their people by both sides and after that We’Ll both sides and after that we’ll have decisions to make about, have decisions to make about drafting articles andwhere it drafting articles and where it goes. , goes. explain how that decision. explain how that decision process works. process works. Is this going to be in a is this going to be in a committee hearing that we’ll all committee hearing that we’ll all watch or will you make these watch or will you make these decision behind closed doors, to decision behind closed doors to say, we’ve decided To do abuse of, say, we’ve decided to do abuse of power here bribery. There power here, bribery there, , there will be consultations.

there will be consultations with members of the committee with members of the committee house, leadership with members house leadership with members. Ofthe house. of the house. we’ll have to make those we’ll have to make those decision. decision. , so we’ll bring articles of so we’ll bring articles of impeachment, presumably before impeachment, presumably before the committee at some point. The committee at some point later in the week. later in the week. , do you have an idea how many do you have an idea? How many articles you are going to draw articles you are going to draw up up? You seem to be hesitant. You seem to be hesitant, , i’m, not ready to decide that i’m, not ready to decide that it’s, not just my decision of it’s, not just my decision of course. course. is this speaker.

You may come is this speaker, you may come up with recommendations and she up with recommendations, and she ultimately says do this not ultimately says do this, not that that she’ll have a role as many of she’ll have a role as Many of the members of the caucus. , the members of the caucus. , but the decision have to be made, but the decision have to be made based on everything we’ve, based on everything, we’ve learned until now, and based on learned until now and based on what we hear. Tomorrow. , what we hear tomorrow. remember some of these things remember some of these things are very clear at this point. arevery clear at this point. there is overwhelming evidence. There is overwhelming evidence, uncontested by the republicans uncontested by the republicans that the president put himself that the president put himself above the country. above the country. , that the president sought , that the president sought foreign assistance in elections. foreign assistance in elections.

sought To cover it, up. sought to cover it up. , completely defied participation, completely defied participation in the congressional in the congressional investigation p. in order to investigation p. in order to hide his role. hide his role. that he sought foreign that he sought foreign Assistance for the next assistance for the next election. election. What is that a definition of ? What is that? A definition of an afwus of power allegation, an afwus of power allegation that you are describing that you are describing bribely allegation, bribely allegation, , certainly abuse of power. , certainly abuse of power. , it might be abecause of it - might be abecause of obstruction of Congress in his obstruction of congress in his not cooperating.

, not cooperating. , you know. , you know. , he refused every single, he refused every single document. document. He told everybody in the he told everybody in the executive branch. Do not executive branch? Do not cooperate. cooperate. Do not answer. Do not testify.

do not answer, do not testify. , no president has ever done. No president has ever done anythingleak that. anything leak that. So this is a defiance of the. So this is a defiance of the role of congress given by the role of congress given by the constitution for impeachment. constitution for impeachment. But again he put himself above, but again he put himself above the country. , the country. he sought to get foreign.

He sought to get foreign interference against the interference against the integrity of our election. integrity of our election. This is a matter of urgency. To this is a matter of urgency to deal with. deal with. We have to make sure the next. We have to make sure the next election is conducted without election is conducted without integrity or forepersonintegrity or foreperson interference. interference. During a hearing with during a hearing with constitutional scholars, this constitutional scholars.

This week you seemed to hint that week you seemed to hint that you’re inclined to include some you’re inclined to include some of the allegations in the of the allegations in the mueller report in an article or mueller report in an article or possibly more of impeachment. Possibly more of impeachment. , i know that that is not. I know that that is not. As you know, that is not, as you know, that is not unanimous inside the democratic, unanimous inside the democratic caucus. caucus. Where are you on this? Where are you on this , i’m reservingjudgment. , >, >, i’m, reserving judgment.

we’re going to have to decide we’re going to have to decide what we do after we have the what we do after we have the evidence tomorrow and after evidence tomorrow and after consultations With others in the consultations with others in the caucus. caucus. , there are a wide variety of. There are a wide variety of factors that have to be factors that have to be considered, including the degree considered, including the degree of proof, the degree of of proof. The degree of confidence and where the members confidence and where the members of the caucus are. of the caucus are. , we certainly had an abundance of. We certainly had an abundanceof evidence on various things and evidence on various things and again the republicans have again the republicans have virtually not contested this all, virtually not contested this all that they have said all that that they have said all that they have said they Opposed the they have said, they opposed the process, not the everyday. process, not the everyday. , by the way, the president os by the way the president os counsel shows up tomorrow, will counsel shows up tomorrow. Will you let him in you? Let him in , he said: he’s not showing up.

He said he’s not showing up. He may change his mind. He may change his mind. hemay tweet as you and i are. He may tweet, as you and i are speaking i’m, sending my lawyer. speaking i’m sending my lawyer. He is guilty at this point of . He is guilty at this point of the most blatant contempt of the most blatant contempt of congress. congress.

, who is guilty , who is guilty? no cipiloni. , , no cipiloni. , i don’t mean as a crime, just as i don’t mean as a crime, just as the contempt dripping from the the contempt dripping from the two letters several letters, he two letters, several letters he sent to us. sent to Us. , but that aside, he has said he, but that aside hehas said he is not going to come. is not going to come. that’s a very academic question. , that’s a very academic question. The president was invited to the president was invited to submit system testimony, invited submit system testimony invited to send his counsel. to send his counsel.

He has declined to do so. He has declined to do so. , . I want to show the democratic . I want to show the democratic members in the sort of trump members in the sort of trump districts have been saying what districts have been saying, what they want to see in this idea of they want to see in this idea of the impeachment inquiry the impeachment Inquiry expanding. expanding. , i don’t think we should be. I don’t think we should be throwing the whole kitchen sink, throwing the whole kitchen sink and try to overreach. Well, he is certainly time is . Well, he is certainly time is certainly correct.

If that. certainly correct, if that. , do you -- look, do you think ? Do you -- look? Do you think it’s important for you to write it’s important for you to write an article of impeachment that an article of impeachment that has democratic support and, if has democratic support, and if you don’t think it has majority you don’t think it has majority support. You won’t write the support you won’t writethe article article , i’m, not financial, to say, , i’m, not financial, to say that i do think. Obviously we that i do think. Obviously we want the house to pass the want the house to pass the resolutions that we put forward. resolutions that we put forward. So that’s one fact to consider so that’s one fact to consider obviously. obviously. , but again we also have to. But again, we also have to consider the fact that we have consider the fact that we have to call the president for his to call the president for his violation of the constitution, violation of the constitution and for posing the considerable and for posing the considerable risks.

He posesto the next risks he poses to the next election. election. , i’m curious, the political, , i’m curious, the political divide we have. divide, we have. This was something that this was something that concerned you 20 years, ago. concerned you 20 years ago. This is what you said: 20 years. This is what you said 20 years ago, actually 21 years ago ago, actually, 21 years ago, almost to the 21 years ago, to almost to the 21 years ago to the month. , the month. impeaching, a president when you impeaching a president when you have not got a Broad consensus have not got a broad consensus of the american people, a broad of the american people abroad, agreement of almost everybody agreement of almost everybody that this fellow has to go that this fellow has to go without that you cannot, and without that you cannot and Should not impeach a president should not impeach a president, because to do so is to call into because to do so is to call into question the legitimacy of all question the legitimacy of all of our political institutions.

, of our political institutions. , . That has been the connoneundr that has been the connoneundr of this impeachment process. of this impeachment process. You have a law of partisan. You have a law of partisan objection to this. objection to this. Does that matter? Does that matter, ? Well, of course it matters >, >. Well, of course it matters, but thele poing now shows 70 % of but thele poing now shows 70 % of the american people are. The american people are convinced.

The president has done convinced the president has done something very wrong. , something very wrong. : , 70 % aren’t ready to oust him. 70 % aren’t ready to oust him. , we’re not through with the we’re not through with the process. process. 70 % of the american people, , 70 % of the american people said they understand the said they understand. The president has done something president has done something very wrong. , very wrong. We also are faced with a very. We also are facedwith a very direct threat that this direct threat that this president put himself repeatedly president put himself repeatedly above the interests of the above the interests of the country and poses a threat to country and poses a threat to the integrity of the next.

The integrity of the next election. election. that’s not something we were that’s, not something. We were talking about 20 years, ago. talking about 20 years ago. He poses a threat to the. He poses a threat to the integrity of the next election integrity of the next election. If he’s allowed to continue to, if he’s allowed, to continue to do what he’s doing. do what he’s doing. what’s the consequence of what’s the consequence of impeach him him and him being impeach him him and him being acquitted, how he will take Acquitted how he will take acquittal acquittal, ? Well, i don’t know how he . Well, i don’t know how he will take acquittal.

will take acquittal. , i don’t know, he’ll be acquitted. , i don’t know, he’ll be acquitted. , the senators are going to have. The senators are going to have to decide the house members to decide. The house members first are going to have to first are going to have to decide and then the senators decide and then the senators will have to decide in the face will have to decide in the face ofan abundance of uncontested of an abundance of uncontested evidence. The president poses a evidence. The president poses a threat to our election. threat to our election. He put his own interests above he put his own interests above the interests of the country, the interests of the country. Are they going to be patriots, or are they going to be patriots or partisans, partisans, ? Let me ask this: if he is , let me ask this: if he is acquitted, do you think we’ll acquitted? Do you think we’ll have a fair election in 2020? Have a fair election in 2020 i don’t know.

I don’t know. the president, based on his past.


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