Karlan: We Are A Strong Country, But 'We Can Still Be Exploited By Foreign Countries' | NBC News

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Published: 12/04/2019

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Prof. Pamela Karlan discusses Constitutional protections the framers put in place to keep foreign influence out of the office of the president. » Subscribe to NBC News: http://nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC » Watch more NBC video: http://bit.ly/MoreNBCNews NBC News Digital is a collection of innovat...



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And how they come into play: here. here. , . Let me bring it up to date. Let me bring it up to date. there’s, modern stuff as well there’s modern stuff as well. That’S important. that’s important. They were worried, they could be, they were worried. They could be corrupted in a variety of corrupted in a variety of different ways and spent time different ways and spent time trying to design an el ...
ction trying to design an election system.

That wouldn’t be subject system that wouldn’t be subject to that corruption and there’s. A to that corruption and there’s a number of different provisions, number of different provisions in the constitution that deal in the constitution that dealwith the corruption they were with the corruption they were worried. About. worried about. two i’d like to highlight here two i’d like to highlight here, because they go to one. I think, because they go to one, i think seems to be a remnant of a past seems to be a remnant of a past time, which is, if you become an time which is, if you become an american citizen, almost american citizen. Almost everything in this country is everything in this country is open to you. , open to you. You can become chief justice or you can become chief justice or secretary, but the one office, not secretary, but the one office not open to you ispresidency open to you is presidency because of the natural born because of the natural born citizen clause of the citizen. Clause of the constitution and the reason they constitution and the reason they put that in is because they were put that in is because they were so worried about foreign, so worried about foreign influence over a president. influence over a president.

The other clause that probably the other clause that probably no one heard of five years ago, no one heard of five years ago, but now everyone talks about is but now everyone talks about is the amolluments clause. , the amolluments clause. They thought he would use it to. They thought he would use it toget everything he could and he get everything he could and he would take. Gifts from foreign would take gifts from foreign countries. countries. and they were very concerned and they were very concerned about those elections. about those elections. but it’s. Not just them, and i but it’s, not just them, and i want to say something about what want to say something about what our national interest is today.

Our national interest is today because our national interest - because our national interest today is different in important today - is different in important ways than it was in 1789. ways than it was in 1789. What the framers were worried, what the framers were worried about is that wewould be a weak about, is that we would be a weak country and we could be country, and we could be exploited by foreign countries. exploited by foreign countries. Now we’re a strong power now. Now, we’re a strong power now. , the strongest power in the the strongest power in the world. world. we can still be exploited by.

We can still be exploited by foreign countries. foreign countries. , but the other thing that we have, but the other thing that we have done - and this is one of the done - and this is one of the things that i think we as things that i think we As americans should be, proudest of americans should be proudest ofis we have become what john is. We have become what john winthrop said in 1640 and what winthrop said in 1640 and what ronald reagan said in his final ronald reagan said in his final address to the country. As we address to the country as we left office. left office. , we have become the shining city, we have become the shining city on a hill. on a hill. We have become the nation that we have become the nation that leads the world in understanding leads the world in understanding what democracy is and one of the what democracy is, and one of the things that we understand. Most things that we understand most profoundly is its nota. Real profoundly is its not a real democracy.

democracy. it’s, not a mature democracy, if it’s, not a mature democracy. If the party in power uses the the party in power uses the criminal process to go after criminal process to go after it’s enemies. it’s enemies. , the intelligence committee heard the intelligence committee heard testimony about it. Isn’T our testimony about it. Isn’T our national interest in protecting national interest in protecting our own elections and making our own elections and making sure that the ukraine remains sure that the ukraine remains strong and on the front lines so strong and on the front lines. So they fight the russians there. They fight the russians there and wedon’t have to fight them, and we don’t have to fight them here, but it’s. Also our national here but it’s also our national interest in promoting democracy interest in promoting democracy worldwide. And if we look worldwide and if we look hypocritical about this, if we hypocritical about this, if we look like we’re asking other look like we’re, asking other countries to interfere in our countries to interfere in our election, if we look like we’re election, if we look Like we’re asking other countries to engage, asking other countries to engage in criminal investigations of in criminal investigations of our president’s political.


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