Barr Says The Evidence Was ‘Not Sufficient’ To Investigate Trump’s Campaign | NBC News

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Published: 12/10/2019

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In an exclusive interview, Attorney General William Barr told NBC News' Pete Williams that he believed the evidence was "not sufficient" for the FBI to open an investigation into Russian collusion in Trump's presidential campaign. » Subscribe to NBC News: http://nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC » Watch...



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Mr. attorney-general, why do you say that the fbi opened the investigation of the trump campaign on the thinnest of suspicions? Well, i'm glad to get into the issue of predication. But let me just start out by saying that i think you have to put this in context. I think the heart of the igs report really focused on how the investigation was conducted once it got going, and that is especially the ...
very serious abuses of fisa that occurred, much of which has been, in my view, not accurately reported by the press. over the last Day, but in one area i do disagree with the ig, and that was whether there was sufficient predication to open afull-blown counterintelligence investigation, specifically using the techniques that they did to collect intelligence about the trump campaign. Well well, as a policy matter. , why? Why not open an investigation on a thin pretext? I guess on the one hand you could say it's a presidential campaign, it's very sensitive. You need better at evidence.

On the other hand, you could say it's a presidential campaign. We have to be very careful. There could be a threat to our political process. Well, i think, i think, probably from a civil liberty standpoint. The greatest danger to our free system is that the incumbent government used the apparatus of the state, principally the law-enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies both to spyon political opponents, but also to use them in a way that could affect the outcome of the election. As far as i'm aware, this is the first time in history that this has been done to a presidential campaign, the use of these counterintelligence techniques against a presidential campaign, and we have to remember that in today's world, presidential campaigns are frequently in contact with foreign persons And indeed, in most campaigns, there are signs of illegal foreign money coming in and we don't automatically assume that the campaigns are nefarious and traitors and acting in league with foreign powers.

There has to be some basis before we use these very potent powers in our core. First, amendment activityand here i felt this was very flimsy. Basically, i think the department has a rule of reason, which is at the end of the day, is what you're relying on sufficiently powerful to justify the techniques you're using and the question there is. How strong is the evidence? How sensitive is the activity you're looking at and what are the alternatives, and i think when you step back here and say what was this all based on? It'S not sufficient, remember there was and and never has been any evidence of collusion. , and yet this campaign and the president's administration has been dominated by this investigation into what turns out to be completely baseless. Thanks for checking out ouryoutube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch. , the latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching.


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